0602 Female Led Relationships: FLR Is the Ice Cream: Chastity, Pegging & Cuckolding Are The Sprinkles

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We're gonna try to rifle through this pretty quick because we're not really sure how much battery we have to work with.

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Welcome back! We're not eating Chinese. Not this time. I was just woofing down some bugles.

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I will drink some Mountain Dew though, so. And a Diet Coke. Yep.

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We're gonna do a blind react to TikTok comments. I have to be very honest, I have not looked at my TikTok account for this podcast.

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It's been a hot minute. So, we're gonna blind react to some of the comments that I have on here because I would guess some of them are really good. And maybe they'll be good talking points. So, we're gonna bring you along for the ride. Yeah. So, let's see. Is there any housekeeping? You're welcome, Judy. Nothing really we can talk about.

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Okay. Other than it's fucking cold here. It is cold.

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Yep. We're recording this on January 24th? Yep. Negative 25 this morning.

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Yep. This is Christine's weather podcast. Yep. And just in case anybody wanting to have some information on Christine's bus podcast, our bus has really not gotten any lower temperature wise. Well, I mean, when the door came open a little bit, it did get down to 53, but we have held steady around 72-ish. Last night I had to sleep without covers on because I was so warm, but that could be a menopause thing. That's assuming the listener who might be listening for the very first time knows what the bus situation is. Oh. Quickly, we live in a school bus converted to a tiny home here in Minnesota. And we will not talk politics on this podcast.

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Yeah. We're doing well. I'm almost scared to say where we live now. Yeah, that's true.

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Um, yeah, we're doing pretty good in the bus this season. So staying toasty warm and water's flowing good and all that. So, uh, yeah, that's Christine's bus podcast. Yes. And I think that's all for the housekeeping in case you missed it the first time. Okay. So I finally got to the right page. I had to figure out how to navigate Tik Tok again. Not that I'm not on it all the time. Just not, just not as that account. Okay. Uh, the first comment is for anybody who maybe this is your first time listening to the podcast. It says, I'd love to find out more about this more mentally locked up right now, but there's such a psychological element to this. So I assume I was talking about chastity because those are the comment or those are the videos that get the most interaction on Tik Tok. Uh, I would, okay. First time listener chastity is where you lock your man's banana in a cage and you can wear the key. Are we actively practicing chastity?

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Sadly? No. However, but we have been the last week or so giving it a good shot, but this cage will not agree with me. His banana is fighting back. Yep. Well, actually the nuts that go with the banana are the fighting. Yeah. The cage is actually doing the fighting. Yeah. I'm just along for the ride, but the cage is actually not working at all. Important to find yourself a good cage. So chastity, learning more about it. We talk about chastity a lot. I very much like it.

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Hmm. That was my fuck. Yeah. Moment. Yep. I think though we are, we are in a good place now, even without it. Yeah. And to the point of, of the commenter, um, the, the mentally locked up, um, that, that also it's valid for sure. Uh, physically you don't really have a choice in the matter of mentally, you kind of have a choice, but if you're really, if you're really dedicated to it, I think that it's kind of, it's an equal mentality. You know what I mean? Yep.

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What I'm trying to say anyways. Yes. And I think for you, and we've said this before, that you are pretty much always locked, whether there's a cage on your banana or not. Yeah.

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And I don't know why I keep saying banana. Is it politically correct on your wiener? Is that better?

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Whatever you want to say, it's your account. Piss off the TOS all you want. Yeah. Fuck it.

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I will say, I'm not going to deep dive into everything that's going on in our life, but right now there's a lot going on in our life. And if you've been with us since the beginning, this is not a new, this is, this is common. Some of it is self-inflicted. Some of it is just the way things roll. But I feel like right now there's just too much going on maybe for an actual cage at this moment. I don't know. I think that might be just an excuse.

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Right. I think that's probably true. Yeah. Cause and, and, and again, to the commenter, um, if, if you're a couple or even by yourself, you're a male, um, and you want to go down this chastity road, you can come up with all kinds of excuses. It's like an album name, right?

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Chastity road. Sorry. It's 2026. Anything could happen. Right. Uh, I'm sorry. Yeah. We sometimes use excuses to avoid things and that's across the board with life or whatever. Right. So if you're dedicated to it or this is what you really want to do, then you put the excuses away and you find the solutions, right? Moving on from Chastity.

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Because I'm fucking tired of wearing cages that don't work. Yeah. I gotta be honest.

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I mean, I gotta be honest. It makes me giggle a little bit when it pinches or a ball slips out. However, I want this to work long-term and I want this to be something that we do. It has to be realistic. It's for a lot of people. Well, not for a lot of people, but I guess for some people it's fantasy. Right. And listen, you don't have to do 24 seven chastity if you don't want to, I get, you know, your thing is your thing. Our thing is our thing.

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I would like to be 24 seven for the duration. Right. And in order for that to work, I have to have a cage that it's, it's contradictory, but a cage that is comfortable. Right. That is funny to say. It's confining. Yes. Right. It's gotta be confining, but it has to be comfortable. I can't be breaking skin and bleeding. Right. I can't get infections or anything like that. Right. It has to be realistic. Okay. So finding the right cage is very important. If you're just getting into this, you're going to have to try a few and that's okay. And honestly, go to Amazon. Right. I think there's actually some choices on the Christine Kellogg website. If you want to try that, that'd be cool.

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Either way, you can go on Amazon, find some low budget ones and just figure out which one mechanically fits for you. Yeah. Measurements are important. We did a podcast. Yep. We did a podcast on that. I forget. Sorry, I'm talking too much. No, no, no. I just forget that some of the podcasts are no longer there. Like I can't reference back to podcasts. So if this is your first time listening to the podcast, we had three, what is it? Three seasons, about three and a half, like a hundred and oh, 150 episodes or so that were published. And then, uh, we were unable to pay for the hosting and we lost them all. So thankfully we have a good portion of them saved other than the stuff that was stolen in San Francisco. We have the audio for everything. Yes. No video.

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So we're in the process. We started last year around this time of re-releasing the audio versions and those are available on whatever platform you're on. Um, and I, we, I just uploaded, I think episode 52 and then the first episode of season two. So all of season one is uploaded. We're starting season two and I'll continue that hell or high water. We're not going to put any, uh, drop dates or like, we're going to release one every dah, dah, dah, dah, dah.

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No. So if you're interested in following the podcast, just because we are chaos, your best bet is to get notifications when one drops because they're going to be sporadic and that's just how it is. Right. Or just check your app. Yeah. That too. On your commuter.

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However you do that. Just, just check back and see if we have one. I just had to refresh my memory on what this video was about. I could kind of tell, um, it's an old one. Gosh, we were still in the house. That's how old it was there in the wild. So I'm talking about in the video, I'm talking about, uh, the purpose of this podcast is to inform people, give people information, offer guidance who, for people who are interested in, uh, participating in a female led relationship. So this video was just like, you know, if it's not for you, it's not for you.

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I'm not judging you. I would appreciate if you don't judge me. I'm showing respect for your boundaries. You don't have to, you know, scroll on. Right. So the comment was left at a heat.

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I'm assuming it's a heat. Uh, yo, it feels like you ain't in this lifestyle unless you already married. Okay. That was word for word. I would never talk like that, but not that I'm being disrespectful. Talk how you want to talk. Yeah. But I don't think you need to be married to be in this relationship. I don't think there has to be any type of commitment other than a commitment to communicating with each other and keeping those lines wide open on what you're expecting out of this dynamic. I believe there are people that participate in this. I mean, obviously there are doms out there that make money off of this, right? Men need that release and they pay someone to give that to them. That's an option, right? That's the physical part of it. Yes. Anyways, right. This is a, this is a relationship, right? I mean, I don't know what level that relationship is, is up to you because it's your thing. I mean, are there doms out there that are just dominating without the actual, I mean, there's gotta be virtual doms. There's no physical aspect to that, right? Right. I mean, you, okay. So you've, you've been doing key holding, right? And in some cases, you've not gotten paid for it. You've just done it. Yeah. Right. So in essence, that's a little bit of a relationship that you have with that person. That's a good point. So, I mean, it can be anything from, from just that or like your neighbor or something that you have a thing with, or I don't know, whatever it is. Right. It's a relationship. So probably best if you're in a committed relationship like this to this probably works best for that, but that's what we're talking about anyways. Yes. And I'm talking about a man and a woman in a relationship where the, the woman is the lead of the relationship and that's pretty much, but I don't know that. Yeah. I don't know that you specifically need the title of being married. And even, even if you have some sort of arrangement with somebody, I, I believe I'm with him. I think it's going to work better.

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We know each other very well. We've been together for 11 years. Right. What we talk about is that, yeah, that's what we talk about. Yes. I mean, obviously there's ways to customize it to whatever works for you. So you just have to figure out what that is and what, what works for both of you, because this is, there's two people in this relationship, like ours. Yes.

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I'm leading, but he is still in this relationship and obviously plays a very big part in it.

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So I don't know that you have to be married. I would agree that it probably works better if you're in a relationship with somebody that you're familiar with. Absolutely. But Hey, I mean, learning that's how, that's a good way to get to know someone. Right. Right.

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Yeah. I'm okay. So let's go further back. We were in this relationship before we were married.

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Yeah, that's right. Yep. So, and we were learning at the time. I mean, let's be honest, we jumped right the fuck into it before we really knew each other pretty much, but we figured this out as we went. Yeah. And that's where the podcast started basically.

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Yep. But you know, it, it, um, I, I have to disagree with the commenter because you don't have to be married to do this. Right. But you should be in some sort of, you know, as far as we're concerned, some sort of committed relationship, whatever level that committed is also that was like saying a lot without saying a lot. Welcome to it. Yep.

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To all my ladies listening, I have been there. I totally, totally, totally fucking get it.

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I had to take a good two days. I think it was to process this and looking back at previous relationships. I would say that this is probably something that I would have participated in a long time ago. There's so many benefits to it. One, I know I'm a jealous person or maybe not jealous. I'm possessive. I don't want to see him with anybody else. He's mine. Almost like a property thing. He's mine. I don't want to share. Okay. So that one, I think that's also, oh, that was in the booth at the house. It's a comment on cock holding. It says, my boyfriend asked me this.

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I just don't understand why it would be necessary. I'm very possessive. Like you said, so cock holding is a very touchy subject. And I will be honest. Most of the people that I interact with through the podcast, uh, do not participate in cock holding. That does not have to be a part of this dynamic in any way, shape, or form. We have dabbled and then we don't. And it would just be obviously just me, but it's certainly, I mean, that is cuckolding. Yes.

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Dirk. Okay. Clearly not enough caffeine today, but it is certainly not necessary to be in a female led relationship. Like, I mean, again, first time listening, female led relationship is just what it says. I'm leading the relationship. It's about me being in control, me being the dominant person in our dynamic or in our relationship, whatever word you want to use and anything else you add chastity, cuckolding, anything else you add is just an addition to the female led relationship. It is not, it doesn't have to be part of that to have a successful female led relationship. I think we've referred to it as sprinkles. Yes. Sprinkles. The female led relationship is the vanilla ice cream cone. And then you add your toppings, right? The sprinkles.

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And that could be, that could be pegging. Oh yeah. That could be like feminizing. It could be anything really bondage, like all kinds of things. But none of that is she used the word necessary.

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And I don't know that it's necessary, right? It's an option. This one says it's a major turn on.

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So very exciting. Every time me and my wife love it. It's something you can't explain until you try it. Oh, yep. This is also cuckolding. Uh, I have always said through cuckolding, like I know I'm a very possessive person, right? So this would never go both ways or what? Like we would never be swingers. We are not that. We are not. I mean, anyway, I don't know what the fuck we are. And really I've said this a thousand times. I fucking hate labels. I don't know what we are. We are just existing right now in a female led relationship. That's the extent of our existence and our sprinkles change. Right. We're like crumble. We have a weekly flavor. I guess.

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Yearly. Our sprinkles would probably be begging and chastity and cuckolding at some point. I mean, it's not off the table, right? It's, um, that's just who we are. I will, I will give this warning with cuckolding. You have to have phenomenal communication and you have to be ready for emotions that you did not know were going to be there or that can just spring up. Yep. And you have to be so careful because if you are not ready, much like swinging, it could ruin your relationship. Absolutely. And I can cite one that we ran into early on. You were talking with another guy. I can't remember who it is now. You were talking to another guy or whatever, and he was making you laugh and that hit me. That's my thing to do. I make you laugh. I know exactly who you're talking about. Yeah. That was my thing to do. Yeah. Right. So I don't know that I've ever felt jealousy until then. Yeah. I had no idea what that felt like. So, but we talked about it. Right. Now, if she wants to, you know, experience other men, one of the key points is that they have to make her laugh. Right. Yep. I just have to accept that. Right. But since we talked about it and figured it out, I'm, I'm, I understand it better now. Right. Which so yes.

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And I will say this. I appreciate that up until that moment, he had never been jealous because that makes me feel like I'm doing a good job of making him feel comfortable in our relationship.

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And he knows he's safe. He knows that no matter what, at the end of the day, he is my husband, he will always be my husband and nothing will ever change that. Right. Like, and if, if something was to ever occur where that happened. And I mean, again, 11 years, I've never, I've never felt like I don't like I I've never said, oh my gosh, I think my life would be better if I wasn't with him.

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Right. Yeah. So I feel like if something like that was to ever occur, then it would end immediately. Right. Like, yeah. And we would talk about it. Yes. A hundred percent. All sayers would say, well, you say that nothing would ever happen. Are you always my husband until the divorce? Right. Well, but, but the communication stops that. Yeah. Right. The communication is the roadblock to that situation. You have to be pretty open-minded. Right. You have to be open-minded, but you got to talk about everything. Right. But, and you have to actively listen to each other. Right. That's the hard part. You can't just the woman or the man is talking.

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The other one is, is thinking up their answer before the other person's done. Right. Not cool at all. Yeah. Right. You've got to listen to what the person is saying. Right. And then you can have your response. I think for the most part and much like our relationship or our female led relationship, it ebbs and flows. We have seasons. Sometimes we get stuck in a rut and we aren't listening to each other. And I can always tell when that's happening. And I think he can too, because we get very frustrated with each other. He takes a different tone with me. I take a different tone with him. And generally we feed off of each other's tones. Right. So if he's having a stressful day at work or he's negative or whatever, but whatever's going on, I like just suck that off.

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It's all dirty. I don't suck that off. Really? Poor guy. He's so neglected, but we have been more intentional. I would say more so lately, especially with everything else. Right. That we really, okay, wait a minute. We need to take a minute and we just need to sit down and just stop trying to multitask and have a conversation and put our phones down and talk for a second and just have this conversation. So open communication and active listening are both equally important. When your partner is talking to you, try not to get defensive, listen to what they're saying, because by nature, humans, we get defensive. We're trying to, we don't like to, we don't like to do things. We don't like to be told we're doing something wrong, that we've hurt somebody's feelings. So especially me, a lot of times, sometimes if he's talking and I have done something or not even that I've done something, just if I feel like I've done something wrong, I will be immediately working on my defense in my head. And I have to stop. I have to recognize that and stop and really listen to what he's saying, because nine times out of 10, it has nothing to do with me. As much as I'd like to think the world revolves around me, it really doesn't. It really doesn't. Yeah. She will often take on things that aren't hers to own at all. Right. I take it all, the world revolves around me. The world can't spin if I'm not in it. And that isn't the case. I mean, it's a good attitude to have in our relationship.

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Right. Right. Okay. That was kind of off on a tangent, but I think it was important.

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We're covering some ground here. Okay. So this is back on chastity. It says the first three months were mentally damaging for me, but the whole first year was an incredible learning experience.

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Chastity is an adventure. Yeah. It is very physical, but it is also very mental. So you have to be prepared for that. And if it gets to be too much, you have to take it off and you have to be prepared for, I have encountered a couple submissive males who feel guilty when they take it off and they have an orgasm, like they feel like they've failed. Right. So you have to, you have to really, I don't know if you, if you journal or what you do, you have to work through those emotions because you don't want to deny yourself, I guess, unless it's your thing, but you don't need, I mean, you shouldn't feel guilty. I don't think you should feel guilty about having a release with your partner unless you're, or, you know, alone, whatever it is, having a release, shouldn't make you feel guilt. I guess, fuck, I don't even know because as I'm sitting here saying these words all out, I'm like, well, that's a lot of gray area, right? I would say that, um, if your partner chooses to unlock you and you engage sexually and you haven't, and she allows an orgasm that there should be no guilt because that is a gift that she is giving you. That was very well said. It should be thought of as a reward. Yeah. It's a reward. Absolutely. If you are by yourself and in a cage and someone else's key holding for you and either you sneak out of your cage, which can be done. Or you figure out a way to have an orgasm with it on. Right. Um, then you can feel guilty for that. Yes. Right.

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Because you're cheating yourself really. Right. You've made a commitment to this because you want to do this. And now you've circumvented that and, and had the orgasm anyways. So there, there can be some guilt there probably. Yes. So there is justified guilt. I'm not placing any guilt on you. I'm saying that if there is guilt, that's probably where that would be. That makes sense. So there would be times where guilt. Yes. That makes sense. Yeah. Good job.

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I can't think of just like riding a bike. Yep. I can't think of anything else. This is a bit rambly, but here we are. No, it's all right. We covered some ground and welcome new listeners.

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If you're here and welcome back. Long-time listeners. We'd like to hear from all of you.

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Actually. Yeah. Blow up my inbox. Uh, email Christine Kellogg at Gmail. Uh, K R Y S T I N E K E L L O G G same for my tech talk. All my social media is my name. Yep. Reach out anytime. I do not reach out on Buzzsprout because I cannot respond to you on Buzzsprout. Yep. I don't, that is kind of the dumbest thing they've ever done. Absolutely. It's leaving a comment, but I have no way to interact with you back. Unless we do an episode like this where we respond to some of those, you know, and we can, yeah, maybe we'll do that. Yeah. That's probably a good idea. Yeah.

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I appreciate everybody who, even if it's a dollar, like, yeah, I would really like this to, to become something that is of a coaching at, I would like it to become a coaching platform, a way that I can help people navigate their relationships. That is really my goal with this podcast always has been, we've veered off a little bit here and there and done some only fan stuff and whatever, but I'm not going to probably be doing that anymore. I'm going to get away from that aspect of it other than my erotic stories. Those are fun to do. They are fun to do. So on that note, I just want, I appreciate everybody. I mean, there's people on my Patreon. You guys just simply kick ass. Like, I don't even know what to say. I drop the ball and you guys hang out and I fucking can't appreciate you enough. Seriously. I sincerely love you all. Yeah. Much appreciated. So on that note, I don't know when you'll see us again, hopefully soon, but let's see what happens. If you have any questions or anything you want us to talk about on the podcast, email me, message me on TikTok, whatever it is at TikTok is the one I'm on. I will be more active on the most, uh, or my Patreon. Yep. Anyway, I hope you all have a fantastic rest of the weekend because for us, it is the weekend right now. Have a fantastic week. Be good human beings. Stay healthy. Be well. Show grace. Love you all. Can we come in?