July 8, 2025
0145 Female Led Relationships: Chat Time with Miss Krystine (and her breathless subbie)
Sadly I cannot respond directly to your text, so please Email me! Recorded live(ish) from a Skoolie meetup in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, this episode is part nature walk, part therapy, and part “what-the-hell-are-we-even-talking-about?” (Answer: everything that matters.) My subbie and I open up about what it really looks like to live the FLR lifestyle while surrounded by real life—kids, campers, swing-curious strangers, and school buses painted like national parks. If you’ve ever wond...
Sadly I cannot respond directly to your text, so please Email me!
Recorded live(ish) from a Skoolie meetup in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, this episode is part nature walk, part therapy, and part “what-the-hell-are-we-even-talking-about?” (Answer: everything that matters.)
My subbie and I open up about what it really looks like to live the FLR lifestyle while surrounded by real life—kids, campers, swing-curious strangers, and school buses painted like national parks.
If you’ve ever wondered how to blend your kink dynamic with your vanilla life—this one’s for you.
What We Talk About in This Episode:
- Going “on location” to a Skoolie event—and why these nomad spaces feel so aligned with FLR values
- Integrating parenting and power exchange (with lots of discretion)
- Are there secret swinger Skoolie societies? We’re asking for a friend
- Coming out quietly in cautious community spaces
- The importance of being unapologetic but respectful about your lifestyle
- “Not every episode has to teach”—sometimes we’re just real people, walking in the woods, talking about how the hell we make this all work
Krystine Says:
“You don’t need to be rich, or loud, or even caged all the time to live this way.
You just need to stay present, stay honest, and maybe flash your subbie now and then when your mom’s not looking.”
Listener Questions to Reflect On:
- How open are you with your kids (or family) about your relationship structure?
- What are your boundaries around sharing your lifestyle in public spaces?
- Do you have “FLR friends” you hang out with outside of kink events?
- If you’re part of the Skoolie/RV/nomad life, have you come across others living this way?
Want More?
Email Me! KrystineKellogg@Gmail.com
Want to support the podcast and be involved with the behind-the-scenes, including voting on episode topics, as well as tiptoe with me into this whole "coaching" thing. Find my Patreon HERE!
Keywords:
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Transcript
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Sometimes it's just really cool to have that one person that you can talk to or just bounce ideas off of and, you know, that's like, that's the important part.
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This podcast is intended for mature audiences only.
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If you're not 18 years of age or older, there are thousands of other podcasts you can listen to and you can come back and visit us when you are 18.
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This podcast is meant solely for entertainment.
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We are not licensed doctors, lawyers, or therapists.
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We simply have a fascination with the lifestyle and I'd love to share it with you and get your thoughts and opinions.
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Welcome back.
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Episode 44.
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45.
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I cannot get it right.
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And my subbie is with me.
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Hey, how's it going?
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We're gonna do a chat time with Miss Christine, her subbie.
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We are kind of on location right now, so we're just kind of winging it.
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Something last minute came up and you're on a nature walk with us, so enjoy a little bit of self-care time.
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Wind in the trees, traffic on the highway.
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I mean, kids yelling.
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Yes, there are lots of children.
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Where are we, subbie?
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So we're in Gould City in the UP of Michigan at a schoolie meetup.
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If you don't know what a schoolie is, it's a converted school bus and that actually encompasses all different kinds of buses, like coaches, regular school buses, short school buses, box trucks, shuttle buses, all of that.
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Great community of people.
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Yep, that is going to be our future, so we're doing a little bit of recon.
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Because we are encompassed and all over the map.
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That we are.
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So housekeeping, let's see.
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Well, we have another trip coming up next weekend.
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Yes, we do.
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We are going to the good old state highway with some of our campground friends.
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Correct.
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So that should be fun.
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I'm excited to get away.
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I mean, we're away now, but I'm real excited to get away with them.
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I think it will be fun.
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That's going to be for a whole week.
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It is a whole week.
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So we'll do the episode from there at some point.
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Yep.
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Maybe with them.
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That would be a good episode.
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We have kidlets coming.
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Right, so we have to be careful on that.
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Yeah, we'll have to figure out a way to, I think that would be a good time to have them on.
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So next week, let's plan on having our besties from camp on.
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Yeah, we'll see how that goes.
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I think it'll be fun.
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So what are we talking about?
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Well, on the note of, I mean, we're going to be all over the map.
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So I think on the note of camping with our campground friends.
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Okay.
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I think on the topic of us camping with our, you know, lifestyle people and then integrating your kids in.
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I mean, I think that that is an interesting topic.
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I mean, how do you.
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Like, how does all this work?
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Yeah.
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Like you can mesh the two together.
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Right.
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I mean, you just have to have discreet and discreet.
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Is that the right word?
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Discretion.
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You just have to be.
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Yeah.
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You just have to have some discretion.
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Right.
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Careful planning.
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Yeah.
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A bite of the tongue now and then.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I guess it depends.
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Like, this couple is open with their kids about their lifestyle.
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They discuss things.
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Now their kids are older.
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Right.
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But they're aware of the lifestyle that they live.
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Our kids are somewhat, we use discretion.
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They know a little bit.
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They kind of know about the podcast.
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They kind of know about the campground.
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Yep.
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We don't hide too much when we're around them.
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They do not know about the cage.
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They do not.
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I think that might be a boundary that is held in place for a while.
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Just a quick side note.
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Do you notice that we're both significantly out of breath and we have done very little walking?
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I feel like maybe exercise.
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I'm not too bad, but.
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Woo.
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I guess Christine could do some exercise.
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Yikes.
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Like, like maybe pole dancing?
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We found a pole that we could put in our bus.
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Someday we want to have a bus.
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Yes, we're going to have a bus with an attachable pole.
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I'm excited.
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OK, so back on the topic of camping with our lifestyle friends.
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Yeah.
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I think, I mean, we're really close and we don't play with this couple yet.
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Not yet.
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I mean, anything's possible in the future.
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It seems inevitable at some point.
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Yeah, but we really enjoy spending time with them and they're just decent humans.
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And so if the lifestyle is something that you're into and you want to incorporate your family, I think that's entirely possible.
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Yeah.
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I mean, obviously, I wouldn't recommend if you're going to swing, you know, swap campers or anything, right?
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Right.
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I think the discretion thing is a huge thing.
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Yeah, I agree.
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I think that maybe when they're old enough, you can share certain things with them, kind of depending on your relationship with them.
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I think that there's kids everywhere.
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Yeah.
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I think that you are a little bit more open with your daughter than I am with mine.
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Yeah, well, I don't.
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I'm the dominant across the board, especially when it comes to my ex-husband.
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Your ex is a little bit bat shit crazy, so you tend to be a little bit more cautious.
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Right.
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And I think, honestly, if we're looking at all of our kids, the girls are very different on a sexual maturity level.
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Yeah, well, definitely on a maturity level in general.
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Yeah.
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And one is not better than the other or whatever.
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I just think that from day one, I've been far more open about sex and things of that nature with my daughter because I've always had the mindset of if she has questions, I want her to come to me.
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I don't want her to go to her silly little friends and, you know, ask them questions.
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I'd rather have her ask me.
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But yeah, you know, and whereas your ex took the approach of, oh, we don't do that till we're 40.
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Right.
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Well, we don't do anything till we're 40.
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Yeah.
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Well, whatever.
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It's a laziness thing.
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Yep.
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And it's kind of on that side, I think it's a lot of fear of the unknown.
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Yeah.
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And I get I'm not it makes it sound like I'm bashing on your ex, though I am not a large fan of her at all.
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Right.
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It is her daughter and she chooses the way that like I'm not going to cross over boundaries and be like, oh, hey, listen, this is life and this is this or this is that that's not my part because that's not my daughter.
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I mean, I'm here to support her if she needs help or has questions.
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I will absolutely answer them to the best of my ability without crossing a line that I think would piss her mom off.
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But if I'm being honest, no matter what I do is going to piss her mom off because she fucking hates me anyway, no matter what we do in general.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So and that's out of jealousy.
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Yeah, for sure.
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So yeah, I think that under a different part of this, as far as people that you can run across in this kind of lifestyle to meaning the the full time RV camper, schooly van, box truck, nomad, whatever you want to call that.
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Yeah.
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That definitely does.
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There is some crossover there, too, with.
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Well, I'd be very curious if, OK, if anybody listens to my podcast and you're a nomad or in the school community or whatever, is there swingers?
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Is there people that participate in this lifestyle that are a part of that community?
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Right.
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Is there like a super secret, secret little super secret schooly swingers?
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Yes.
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Where are you, folks?
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I'm just curious.
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I mean, you know, we're very cautious here.
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It's kind of almost like being around our kids.
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We're very cautious about what we say.
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And I've talked about the podcast a little bit, but yeah, case in point.
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Yesterday, we were at a workshop for business stuff and social media stuff here at the schooly meetup.
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And we tiptoed around what you do.
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We tiptoed around what you do for a living.
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Yep.
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And you kind of tiptoed around saying, you know, that you do some erotic voiceover work or some NSFW work or whatever that is.
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Discretion.
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Word of the day.
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Discretion.
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Yes.
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And actually, we ran across a couple of people here.
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Yep.
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Who have done similar or do similar or.
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Yeah.
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There was one one guy I talked to that I told him the name of the podcast and everything and told him about the campground.
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And he said that he was part of the swinging community when he lived in Florida, which is huge there, I guess.
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But yeah, he said it wasn't for him.
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But, you know, he can see which.
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Right.
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Kind of veering away, but not.
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It's interesting when I come across people who listen to what I have to say or just hear what I have to say.
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And then they say, well, it's not for me, but, you know, perhaps you for putting it out there or whatever.
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Right.
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Like, it's fun to interact with people who it may not be for them, but they ask questions and want to hear more or, you know, oh, hey, that's not for me.
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But thanks for sharing.
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You know, I wish more people in the world were like that.
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Yeah.
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And then the the workshop leader, she had actually written a couple of stories and made a few bucks off of those, I guess.
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So, yeah, she said she made an obscene amount of money off of her erotic books and she was kind of embarrassed by it.
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And yeah, I don't stand over here.
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I don't know that I've necessarily ever super addressed this, but I'm by no means at all ashamed of what I do, nor will I ever be.
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Because, listen, my whole point is to offer education and somebody that people feel like they can talk to if they have questions, just like not referring to my kids.
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But, you know, if there's somebody that's down to earth and isn't going to laugh at you or make fun of you because of the questions that you have, I feel like that's a good resource.
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Right.
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I by no means have all the answers at all.
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But nobody has all of the answers.
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And that's why a community is so important, because then you can learn things from each other.
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So and sometimes it's just nice to see pretty schoolies drive by.
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Yeah, like this one.
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Let me show you.
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For those of you listening, that was really cool looking school bus that was painted with mountains and stuff on it.
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Sometimes it's just really cool to have that one person that you can talk to or just bounce ideas off of.
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And, you know, that's like that's the important part.
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And any of that stuff, any conversation and community and stuff like that, you learn more, you get more comfortable with the things you're curious about.
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You know, we drove seven hours to be here this weekend, kind of on a whim.
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Yeah, very much on a whim, because we'd known we knew nothing about this whole thing.
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We found out after it had really already started two days before it started.
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So this thing ran from Monday, last Monday, last Monday to through tomorrow.
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Right.
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Or it finishes up tomorrow.
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Yep.
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And we just decided to come for the weekend.
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We packed up our camper, which, listen, that's been a debacle in itself.
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Sort of.
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But yeah, it was a good test run for our Iowa trip.
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And I'm really glad that we came.
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But man, next year, I want to be here all year.
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Yep.
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All week.
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All year.
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All year would be great, too.
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But I don't even know what day of the damn week it is.
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Yeah, there is that.
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I haven't known.
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And did you know there's an hour time difference?
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We didn't know that either.
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I had no idea we crossed over that.
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I didn't think we're that far east.
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That's crazy.
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But we did.
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So anyway, this is kind of a hodgepodge of everything.
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It is kind of.
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But I guess the important part is that you can do this, this kind of female dominated marriage lifestyle, relationship lifestyle.
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It can exist in your day to day, mundane, vanilla, quote unquote, normal lives.
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You know, and it's actually kind of make it to me.
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It kind of heightens the experience a little bit because it's the thing that only we share.
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Yep.
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You know, there's very little in our house that only we share.
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Yeah.
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We're overtaken by children, children and mom and whatever about normal, you know, other things.
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So it was kind of a good test run to just to just to kind of see what it would be like being.
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I mean, so it's me and my son and then my youngest son is with us and then my mom is with us.
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Right.
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So it was kind of an interesting little test to see.
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I mean, my mom won't be with us when we go full time, but my youngest son will.
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So it was kind of a good thing to see how we can work in the lifestyle that we live in such a small space.
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Right.
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I mean, our camper is fucking tiny, not very big at all.
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And we make it work.
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I mean, just you just have to be creative with.
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And we're in such a rhythm anyway that, you know, I think it's just really our life.
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Like we don't even realize that that's the life that I mean.
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Right.
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We just do the things that we do and don't really.
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And I don't know that even my mom picks up on some of it.
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Like, for example, sometimes I like to just flash in my vagina real quick.
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Yeah.
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Or show them a boob.
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Or the butt shots.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Mom's looking out the window the other way, the way and I'm looking in the door and hey, there's your ass.
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You're welcome.
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Thank you for that.
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So.
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So not an overly informative episode, but it was kind of nice just to be out in nature, taking a walk, checking out cool, unique buses.
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And we have freaking shit Wi-Fi here, like no reception at all.
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So this will probably be late because we are here till tomorrow.
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But I wanted to do it here because one, I like being in nature.
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And two, I thought it would be just a cool atmosphere just to do a quick, you know, take a walk and have a chat.
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Yeah.
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And it's kind of our two worlds coming together in this situation.
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And like I said before, we kind of tiptoed into what do these people think of all this, you know?
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And it seems like these people are way more open minded than many.
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Right.
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And I think just like any community, you have different sectors of the community.
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I mean, right.
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You know, there's there's an RV group that is all swingers.
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You know, I'm part of it on Facebook.
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It's a swingers lifestyle RV page.
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So there are swingers everywhere and there are lifestyle lifestyle people everywhere.
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Right.
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I can't imagine there's not any in the community.
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But again.
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Well, like we were talking about, you know, there's the there's a certain percentage of the general population who are in the lifestyle in one way or the other.
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And this is just a small sample size of the larger population.
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Yeah.
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So it exists, I'm sure, on some levels, whether it's more or less.
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We don't know that yet.
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And then, you know, as far as like like we mentioned, we're going camping with people from the campground.
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I mean, I think honestly normalizing this lifestyle, I mean, again, taking the sex out of it and normalizing the lifestyle that you live.
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I mean, it's your choice and the people you choose to bring into your life are your choice.
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Right.
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What you tell your kids is your choice.
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Right.
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I just you know, it's interesting.
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It'd be interesting to hear some feedback on, you know, do you do interact with people that you are in the lifestyle with outside of lifestyle events?
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Right.
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Are there things that you do together on a regular basis?
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I would love to hear if there are other people that are intermingling the two or do you keep them very separate?
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And I'm not saying one way is right and one way is wrong.
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I'm just curious how other people do it.
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Right.
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Because both of that exist, actually.
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Yeah, definitely.
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So it's how you want to handle things.
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Yeah.
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There's necessarily a right or wrong.
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It's more what what works for you.
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So and I think people doing things their own way and working on their own dynamic is really what makes the world an interesting place.
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And I mean, the world isn't the most fantastic place in the world right now.
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There's a lot of stuff going on.
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But right.
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Focus on the positive.
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I'd love to hear how how people are, how people are living their lives, interacting with each other, if it's if you intermingle the lifestyle or if you don't.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Sometimes I'm a smartsicle.
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You're a lot smartsicle.
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Sometimes.
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So we'll probably cut it off here.
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Because there's lots of other stuff to do right now.
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So we wanted to sneak this in.
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Are you going to leave that in there?
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We're going to cut this off right here.
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Don't really cut it off because that would be painful.
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Yeah.
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You could you could put it in a cage if you wanted to.
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That's real fun.
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I like it.
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So we are not, however, let me just do a PSA.
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My subbie is not caged right now because we didn't know we're walking into.
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Yes, literally.
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So so we chose we didn't know what our electrical hookup was going to be and hygiene, how that was going to take place, all of those things kind of sometimes coming into a new element like this.
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We tend to err on the side of caution since the TSA incident.
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Yep.
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So no key because there's no cage.
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Right.
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So that's a good point.
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Err on the side of caution when in doubt.
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Now we just need to figure out how to have sex in our camper.
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I mean, just having sex in general would be great, but you want to do it in the car.
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That's not our dynamic.
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No, no.
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You're going to have to find a very quiet vibe.
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Oh, the struggles ahead.
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Yep.
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Stay tuned.
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Yep.
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So.
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Okay, I think that's about it for this episode.
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I hope you enjoyed it.
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I hope you enjoyed taking a walk with my subbie and I in the woods-ish in nature.
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Kind of good self-care.
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Try to catch the YouTube version of this because it's kind of beautiful here.
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It is kind of beautiful here.
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Yeah.
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I hope everyone has a fantastic week.
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I really hope to have our camping buddies on with us next week.
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So stay tuned for that.
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Yeah.
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Be decent human beings.
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Thanks for listening.
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I appreciate you all and we will chat soon.
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Love you.
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Can we come in?
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Sometimes it's just really cool to have that one person that you can talk to or just bounce ideas off of and, you know, that's like, that's the important part.
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If you're not 18 years of age or older, there are thousands of other podcasts you can listen to and you can come back and visit us when you are 18.
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Welcome back.
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Episode 44.
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45.
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I cannot get it right.
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And my subbie is with me.
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Hey, how's it going?
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We're gonna do a chat time with Miss Christine, her subbie.
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We are kind of on location right now, so we're just kind of winging it.
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Something last minute came up and you're on a nature walk with us, so enjoy a little bit of self-care time.
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Wind in the trees, traffic on the highway.
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I mean, kids yelling.
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Yes, there are lots of children.
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Where are we, subbie?
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So we're in Gould City in the UP of Michigan at a schoolie meetup.
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If you don't know what a schoolie is, it's a converted school bus and that actually encompasses all different kinds of buses, like coaches, regular school buses, short school buses, box trucks, shuttle buses, all of that.
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Great community of people.
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Yep, that is going to be our future, so we're doing a little bit of recon.
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Because we are encompassed and all over the map.
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That we are.
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So housekeeping, let's see.
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Well, we have another trip coming up next weekend.
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Yes, we do.
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We are going to the good old state highway with some of our campground friends.
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Correct.
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So that should be fun.
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I'm excited to get away.
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I mean, we're away now, but I'm real excited to get away with them.
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I think it will be fun.
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That's going to be for a whole week.
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It is a whole week.
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So we'll do the episode from there at some point.
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Yep.
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Maybe with them.
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That would be a good episode.
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We have kidlets coming.
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Right, so we have to be careful on that.
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Yeah, we'll have to figure out a way to, I think that would be a good time to have them on.
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So next week, let's plan on having our besties from camp on.
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Yeah, we'll see how that goes.
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I think it'll be fun.
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So what are we talking about?
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Well, on the note of, I mean, we're going to be all over the map.
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So I think on the note of camping with our campground friends.
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Okay.
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I think on the topic of us camping with our, you know, lifestyle people and then integrating your kids in.
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I mean, I think that that is an interesting topic.
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I mean, how do you.
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Like, how does all this work?
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Yeah.
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Like you can mesh the two together.
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Right.
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I mean, you just have to have discreet and discreet.
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Is that the right word?
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Discretion.
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You just have to be.
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Yeah.
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You just have to have some discretion.
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Right.
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Careful planning.
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Yeah.
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A bite of the tongue now and then.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I guess it depends.
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Like, this couple is open with their kids about their lifestyle.
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They discuss things.
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Now their kids are older.
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Right.
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But they're aware of the lifestyle that they live.
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Our kids are somewhat, we use discretion.
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They know a little bit.
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They kind of know about the podcast.
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They kind of know about the campground.
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Yep.
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We don't hide too much when we're around them.
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They do not know about the cage.
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They do not.
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I think that might be a boundary that is held in place for a while.
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Just a quick side note.
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Do you notice that we're both significantly out of breath and we have done very little walking?
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I feel like maybe exercise.
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I'm not too bad, but.
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Woo.
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I guess Christine could do some exercise.
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Yikes.
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Like, like maybe pole dancing?
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We found a pole that we could put in our bus.
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Someday we want to have a bus.
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Yes, we're going to have a bus with an attachable pole.
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I'm excited.
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OK, so back on the topic of camping with our lifestyle friends.
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Yeah.
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I think, I mean, we're really close and we don't play with this couple yet.
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Not yet.
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I mean, anything's possible in the future.
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It seems inevitable at some point.
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Yeah, but we really enjoy spending time with them and they're just decent humans.
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And so if the lifestyle is something that you're into and you want to incorporate your family, I think that's entirely possible.
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Yeah.
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I mean, obviously, I wouldn't recommend if you're going to swing, you know, swap campers or anything, right?
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Right.
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I think the discretion thing is a huge thing.
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Yeah, I agree.
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I think that maybe when they're old enough, you can share certain things with them, kind of depending on your relationship with them.
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I think that there's kids everywhere.
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Yeah.
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I think that you are a little bit more open with your daughter than I am with mine.
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Yeah, well, I don't.
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I'm the dominant across the board, especially when it comes to my ex-husband.
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Your ex is a little bit bat shit crazy, so you tend to be a little bit more cautious.
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Right.
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And I think, honestly, if we're looking at all of our kids, the girls are very different on a sexual maturity level.
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Yeah, well, definitely on a maturity level in general.
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Yeah.
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And one is not better than the other or whatever.
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I just think that from day one, I've been far more open about sex and things of that nature with my daughter because I've always had the mindset of if she has questions, I want her to come to me.
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I don't want her to go to her silly little friends and, you know, ask them questions.
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I'd rather have her ask me.
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But yeah, you know, and whereas your ex took the approach of, oh, we don't do that till we're 40.
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Right.
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Well, we don't do anything till we're 40.
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Yeah.
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Well, whatever.
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It's a laziness thing.
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Yep.
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And it's kind of on that side, I think it's a lot of fear of the unknown.
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Yeah.
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And I get I'm not it makes it sound like I'm bashing on your ex, though I am not a large fan of her at all.
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Right.
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It is her daughter and she chooses the way that like I'm not going to cross over boundaries and be like, oh, hey, listen, this is life and this is this or this is that that's not my part because that's not my daughter.
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I mean, I'm here to support her if she needs help or has questions.
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I will absolutely answer them to the best of my ability without crossing a line that I think would piss her mom off.
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But if I'm being honest, no matter what I do is going to piss her mom off because she fucking hates me anyway, no matter what we do in general.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So and that's out of jealousy.
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Yeah, for sure.
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So yeah, I think that under a different part of this, as far as people that you can run across in this kind of lifestyle to meaning the the full time RV camper, schooly van, box truck, nomad, whatever you want to call that.
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Yeah.
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That definitely does.
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There is some crossover there, too, with.
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Well, I'd be very curious if, OK, if anybody listens to my podcast and you're a nomad or in the school community or whatever, is there swingers?
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Is there people that participate in this lifestyle that are a part of that community?
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Right.
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Is there like a super secret, secret little super secret schooly swingers?
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Yes.
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Where are you, folks?
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I'm just curious.
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I mean, you know, we're very cautious here.
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It's kind of almost like being around our kids.
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We're very cautious about what we say.
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And I've talked about the podcast a little bit, but yeah, case in point.
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Yesterday, we were at a workshop for business stuff and social media stuff here at the schooly meetup.
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And we tiptoed around what you do.
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We tiptoed around what you do for a living.
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Yep.
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And you kind of tiptoed around saying, you know, that you do some erotic voiceover work or some NSFW work or whatever that is.
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Discretion.
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Word of the day.
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Discretion.
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Yes.
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And actually, we ran across a couple of people here.
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Yep.
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Who have done similar or do similar or.
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Yeah.
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There was one one guy I talked to that I told him the name of the podcast and everything and told him about the campground.
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And he said that he was part of the swinging community when he lived in Florida, which is huge there, I guess.
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But yeah, he said it wasn't for him.
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But, you know, he can see which.
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Right.
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Kind of veering away, but not.
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It's interesting when I come across people who listen to what I have to say or just hear what I have to say.
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And then they say, well, it's not for me, but, you know, perhaps you for putting it out there or whatever.
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Right.
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Like, it's fun to interact with people who it may not be for them, but they ask questions and want to hear more or, you know, oh, hey, that's not for me.
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But thanks for sharing.
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You know, I wish more people in the world were like that.
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Yeah.
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And then the the workshop leader, she had actually written a couple of stories and made a few bucks off of those, I guess.
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So, yeah, she said she made an obscene amount of money off of her erotic books and she was kind of embarrassed by it.
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And yeah, I don't stand over here.
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I don't know that I've necessarily ever super addressed this, but I'm by no means at all ashamed of what I do, nor will I ever be.
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Because, listen, my whole point is to offer education and somebody that people feel like they can talk to if they have questions, just like not referring to my kids.
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But, you know, if there's somebody that's down to earth and isn't going to laugh at you or make fun of you because of the questions that you have, I feel like that's a good resource.
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Right.
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I by no means have all the answers at all.
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But nobody has all of the answers.
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And that's why a community is so important, because then you can learn things from each other.
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So and sometimes it's just nice to see pretty schoolies drive by.
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Yeah, like this one.
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Let me show you.
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For those of you listening, that was really cool looking school bus that was painted with mountains and stuff on it.
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Sometimes it's just really cool to have that one person that you can talk to or just bounce ideas off of.
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And, you know, that's like that's the important part.
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And any of that stuff, any conversation and community and stuff like that, you learn more, you get more comfortable with the things you're curious about.
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You know, we drove seven hours to be here this weekend, kind of on a whim.
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Yeah, very much on a whim, because we'd known we knew nothing about this whole thing.
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We found out after it had really already started two days before it started.
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So this thing ran from Monday, last Monday, last Monday to through tomorrow.
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Right.
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Or it finishes up tomorrow.
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Yep.
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And we just decided to come for the weekend.
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We packed up our camper, which, listen, that's been a debacle in itself.
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Sort of.
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But yeah, it was a good test run for our Iowa trip.
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And I'm really glad that we came.
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But man, next year, I want to be here all year.
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Yep.
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All week.
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All year.
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All year would be great, too.
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But I don't even know what day of the damn week it is.
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Yeah, there is that.
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I haven't known.
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And did you know there's an hour time difference?
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We didn't know that either.
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I had no idea we crossed over that.
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I didn't think we're that far east.
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That's crazy.
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But we did.
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So anyway, this is kind of a hodgepodge of everything.
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It is kind of.
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But I guess the important part is that you can do this, this kind of female dominated marriage lifestyle, relationship lifestyle.
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It can exist in your day to day, mundane, vanilla, quote unquote, normal lives.
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You know, and it's actually kind of make it to me.
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It kind of heightens the experience a little bit because it's the thing that only we share.
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Yep.
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You know, there's very little in our house that only we share.
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Yeah.
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We're overtaken by children, children and mom and whatever about normal, you know, other things.
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So it was kind of a good test run to just to just to kind of see what it would be like being.
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I mean, so it's me and my son and then my youngest son is with us and then my mom is with us.
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Right.
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So it was kind of an interesting little test to see.
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I mean, my mom won't be with us when we go full time, but my youngest son will.
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So it was kind of a good thing to see how we can work in the lifestyle that we live in such a small space.
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Right.
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I mean, our camper is fucking tiny, not very big at all.
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And we make it work.
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I mean, just you just have to be creative with.
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And we're in such a rhythm anyway that, you know, I think it's just really our life.
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Like we don't even realize that that's the life that I mean.
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Right.
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We just do the things that we do and don't really.
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And I don't know that even my mom picks up on some of it.
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Like, for example, sometimes I like to just flash in my vagina real quick.
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Yeah.
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Or show them a boob.
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Or the butt shots.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Mom's looking out the window the other way, the way and I'm looking in the door and hey, there's your ass.
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You're welcome.
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Thank you for that.
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So.
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So not an overly informative episode, but it was kind of nice just to be out in nature, taking a walk, checking out cool, unique buses.
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And we have freaking shit Wi-Fi here, like no reception at all.
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So this will probably be late because we are here till tomorrow.
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But I wanted to do it here because one, I like being in nature.
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And two, I thought it would be just a cool atmosphere just to do a quick, you know, take a walk and have a chat.
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Yeah.
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And it's kind of our two worlds coming together in this situation.
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And like I said before, we kind of tiptoed into what do these people think of all this, you know?
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And it seems like these people are way more open minded than many.
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Right.
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And I think just like any community, you have different sectors of the community.
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I mean, right.
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You know, there's there's an RV group that is all swingers.
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You know, I'm part of it on Facebook.
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It's a swingers lifestyle RV page.
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So there are swingers everywhere and there are lifestyle lifestyle people everywhere.
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Right.
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I can't imagine there's not any in the community.
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But again.
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Well, like we were talking about, you know, there's the there's a certain percentage of the general population who are in the lifestyle in one way or the other.
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And this is just a small sample size of the larger population.
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Yeah.
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So it exists, I'm sure, on some levels, whether it's more or less.
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We don't know that yet.
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And then, you know, as far as like like we mentioned, we're going camping with people from the campground.
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I mean, I think honestly normalizing this lifestyle, I mean, again, taking the sex out of it and normalizing the lifestyle that you live.
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I mean, it's your choice and the people you choose to bring into your life are your choice.
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Right.
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What you tell your kids is your choice.
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Right.
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I just you know, it's interesting.
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It'd be interesting to hear some feedback on, you know, do you do interact with people that you are in the lifestyle with outside of lifestyle events?
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Right.
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Are there things that you do together on a regular basis?
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I would love to hear if there are other people that are intermingling the two or do you keep them very separate?
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And I'm not saying one way is right and one way is wrong.
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I'm just curious how other people do it.
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Right.
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Because both of that exist, actually.
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Yeah, definitely.
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So it's how you want to handle things.
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Yeah.
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There's necessarily a right or wrong.
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It's more what what works for you.
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So and I think people doing things their own way and working on their own dynamic is really what makes the world an interesting place.
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And I mean, the world isn't the most fantastic place in the world right now.
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There's a lot of stuff going on.
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But right.
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Focus on the positive.
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I'd love to hear how how people are, how people are living their lives, interacting with each other, if it's if you intermingle the lifestyle or if you don't.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Sometimes I'm a smartsicle.
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You're a lot smartsicle.
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Sometimes.
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So we'll probably cut it off here.
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Because there's lots of other stuff to do right now.
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So we wanted to sneak this in.
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Are you going to leave that in there?
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We're going to cut this off right here.
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Don't really cut it off because that would be painful.
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Yeah.
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You could you could put it in a cage if you wanted to.
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That's real fun.
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I like it.
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So we are not, however, let me just do a PSA.
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My subbie is not caged right now because we didn't know we're walking into.
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Yes, literally.
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So so we chose we didn't know what our electrical hookup was going to be and hygiene, how that was going to take place, all of those things kind of sometimes coming into a new element like this.
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We tend to err on the side of caution since the TSA incident.
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Yep.
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So no key because there's no cage.
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Right.
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So that's a good point.
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Err on the side of caution when in doubt.
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Now we just need to figure out how to have sex in our camper.
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I mean, just having sex in general would be great, but you want to do it in the car.
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That's not our dynamic.
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No, no.
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You're going to have to find a very quiet vibe.
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Oh, the struggles ahead.
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Yep.
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Stay tuned.
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Yep.
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So.
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Okay, I think that's about it for this episode.
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I hope you enjoyed it.
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I hope you enjoyed taking a walk with my subbie and I in the woods-ish in nature.
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Kind of good self-care.
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Try to catch the YouTube version of this because it's kind of beautiful here.
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It is kind of beautiful here.
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Yeah.
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I hope everyone has a fantastic week.
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I really hope to have our camping buddies on with us next week.
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So stay tuned for that.
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Yeah.
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Be decent human beings.
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Thanks for listening.
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I appreciate you all and we will chat soon.
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Love you.
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Can we come in?
