0135 Female Led Relationships: Road Trips, Restraints, and Relationship Real Talk

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Oh, are we at episode 35?

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Jesus.

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What?

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I didn't realize it was episode 35 already.

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Yeah.

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We are not licensed doctors, lawyers, or therapists.

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We simply have a fascination with the lifestyle and I'd love to share it with you and get your thoughts and opinions.

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Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

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Welcome back.

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Look who's here.

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Hey, everyone.

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This is my stubby.

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So we're taking a little bit of a drive and we thought, let's do an episode.

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Yes.

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And what's the episode about?

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Five ways to torture or enjoy your sub on a road trip.

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Yep.

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I have notes for this one, so I'm going to be looking down a little bit.

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Yeah.

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Do we have housekeeping issues to address?

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Wow.

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Hey, PSA, PSA.

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I played in a dart tournament last night.

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Yeah.

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I may have consumed a little bit of alcohol.

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Yep.

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And I'm feeling a little bit foggy today, so bear with me.

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You should be fine.

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Yeah.

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You'll be good.

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Yeah.

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So on that note, as far as housekeeping, let's talk about the nice young lady that you ran into with the undercut hair thing.

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Okay.

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Oh, that's Dory.

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Dory time.

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So I'm shooting darts.

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I was actually not shooting, I was on an off game and I was standing talking to a couple of friends and this random girl comes up to me and she says, I had my hair up and I have my hair shaved underneath.

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So like all under here is shaved.

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And she came up and she said, oh, I love your undercut.

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Oh, I bet it, because it was hot.

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It was so hot in there yesterday.

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And I'm not complaining, it's not snowing, so yay.

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But she said, I love your undercut.

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I bet it's so much cooler.

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And I said, yeah, it's really nice.

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I love it too.

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And she said, I used to have one for a long time and then I decided to get married.

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And I'm like, okay.

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And she said, I had to grow it out for my updo.

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And I said, well, aren't you married now?

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And she said, yeah.

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Said, so shave it.

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She said, oh, my husband won't let me.

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What do you mean?

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Come on.

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To what I say to that is, what?

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Okay, I understand everybody has their own dynamic, but even when I was in my first marriage, there was no, my husband won't let me.

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We had, Ms. Christine and I had a very, like she told me this story earlier this morning and it fucking floored me.

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It was like mind blown.

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I was beside myself.

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Now, in fairness, I'm submissive to my wife.

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So the words, my husband won't let me, probably will never come out of, but in general, let's talk about like a, just a regular relationship aspect of this.

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Like- Let's take the kink completely out of it.

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Let's just pretend that we- Regular, normal.

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I hate that word.

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Marriage.

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My husband or my wife won't let me.

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Why are you married?

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Right.

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Should you not be married?

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And this isn't about, you know, having like carte blanche or whatever to do whatever you want, anytime you want, all, whatever.

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This isn't necessarily about that.

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My feeling and our feeling is that you should be in a relationship that isn't necessarily about permissions to do or not do things or, you know, anything along those lines necessarily.

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Like, you know, I want to go to Macy's and spend $1,000.

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Oh, my husband won't let me do that.

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I guess I can kind of see that.

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Well, yeah.

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I mean, and honestly, in a relationship, if you know what's in your bank account and $1,000 at Macy's isn't in the budget, I mean- That's just common sense.

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But here's my thought on that whole situation.

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It's her body, it's her hair, and should he not love her unconditionally no matter what she looks like?

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I mean, if she feels happy in how she looks that way or if it makes her feel good about herself or she just fucking likes it, why does he get to say, like, if you told me you wanted to shave your head, I would be like, mm, I mean, okay, I will still love you.

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I will still find you attractive even with your misshapen head, but, like, I would never tell you no.

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Right, and same, you know?

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I would be really bummed if you shaved your head completely and didn't have all your beautiful curly locks.

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And you could see my misshapen head.

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I don't know.

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Either way, though, I was just floored by, floored, floored?

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Floored.

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I was just floored by, my husband won't let me.

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Just, I mean, even if we weren't in an FLR, didn't practice chastity, any of that, I don't, those words never, I mean, if it's something that you feel better about yourself having or you just like it in general, I'm not gonna tell you, no, it's not hurting me.

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It's your fucking hair.

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Right.

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I don't know.

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A hundred, I would, I feel confident in saying a hundred percent of the time, if I'm on the fence about a decision that I'm making about something, whether it's work-related or voiceover-related or our channels or anything related, if I'm on the fence about something, I'm gonna bounce it off.

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Well, we talk about everything anyway.

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I mean, very rarely do we do, even if, I mean, kink aside, we talk about everything.

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Right.

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And that goes both ways though.

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Right.

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And she's the same way.

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So a conversation will typically start with, here's where I'm at.

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Yeah.

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You know, I'm thinking about this and I would like to do this and this will get that done.

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What do you think?

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You know?

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And like 99 times out of a hundred, that's exactly how the conversation goes.

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You know, and then there's a conversation and more often than not, the other is completely on board with what the thinking is.

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I think that's why like a lot of people, when they talk about wanting to try out the lifestyle in whatever aspect they choose to explore, I'm beginning to think that maybe this lifestyle is getting such a bad rap because people look at it as an out.

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And it absolutely should never ruin your relationship.

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It should only enhance it.

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You have to be solid.

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You have to have a good relationship with open communication.

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And if there are underlying problems or things that you struggle with in your relationship, jumping into the lifestyle or trying out the lifestyle may only make them worse.

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I feel like that is a lot of where the stigma attached to the things we participate in come from.

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And that's where you get, that's probably where you get a lot of your comments that you were talking about last week.

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Yeah.

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It stems from something along those lines.

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Yeah.

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I think a lot of the relationships that end in divorce because, you know, they tried out swinging, it automatically gets blamed on the swinging aspect of it, but there was really something going on long before that somebody wasn't fessing up to, whether it be the husband, the wife, or, you know, whatever the case, the wife, the wife, whatever the case may be.

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Right.

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Yeah, there's more to it than that.

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Yeah.

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And I automatically go with, well, it's just a small town mentality, but I really don't know that it is.

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I really don't think that's the case at all because I think that there, I think it's just a relationship thing.

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And I don't know, I just, she said that and I was probably, I mean, it was probably two o'clock in the afternoon, so I was probably six drinks in.

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I mean, you know, we started at eight, I started drinking at 1030.

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There is that, but still.

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Yeah, I just, I chose to bite my lip and continue on my throwing darts.

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And I just said, oh, well, that's too bad.

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I felt like I was in no position to offer my true opinion, so I let it go.

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I mean, if she's happy with her husband, fuck, I'm not gonna be the one to say, that's bullshit.

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He shouldn't fucking tell you to do that because listen, if that's the lifestyle you're happy in, I'm not here to judge.

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I'm not here to tell you I think it's dumb.

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Dumb maybe isn't the word, but.

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And I'm just thinking of this now, and another thing to think about is, you know, my husband won't let me.

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There's maybe even a shield for, I really don't wanna do it anymore.

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And that's fine too, fuck, don't do it then.

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Right.

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So maybe she's blaming her husband for something.

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I mean, who knows, I guess.

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But it just like, those words just like, straight up my spine, you know?

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Like, holy cow, I can't even imagine a relationship, a healthy relationship where that is involved.

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Now.

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We don't know how the conversation went down between her and her husband either.

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No, my wife won't let me sleep with another woman.

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Right?

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Right.

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That's a boundary thing.

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Right, it's a boundary thing.

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So, I don't know.

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I think when it comes to personal appearance, I think people have their own say about what they wanna do with their body.

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I think there's, I mean, there's a line.

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But at the same time, I don't have any interest in that anyways.

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Right.

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So again, we're completely on board with the same thing.

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Right.

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So I don't.

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And I'm not saying I would never let you sleep with another woman.

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I just.

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But even still, I don't have an interest.

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So it's not, I'm not, I don't feel like I'm being, you know, held back from anything.

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Oh, that's good.

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I know, I'm good.

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I like it.

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I get to marry this.

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Lucky man.

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What the fuck more would I want than that?

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Lucky man.

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Okay.

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So we, like, so last week's episode was out a little late.

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It was.

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There wasn't much going on on any social media.

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It was just kind of a hell, hellish kind of week.

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It was.

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The weekend, this weekend, this past weekend has been kind of hectic.

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We still have a lot of things up in the air.

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Yeah.

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I have a lot of work to get done.

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If you guys only knew half the shit that was going on.

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But anyways.

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Yeah.

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All good, really good things, but there's just, there's just a lot.

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There is a lot going on.

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Yeah, so that kind of wraps up housekeeping, I guess.

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Yeah.

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On to our topic.

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Yes, which I had my subby as he was spectating darts.

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Do my little research and groundwork.

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So I'm kind of reading this for the first time.

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I may have skimmed over it, but I may have been drinking a hair.

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That's true.

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So I will do my best to not continually look down, but at my notes, but.

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It's all right.

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I appreciate your hard work.

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Thank you.

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And investigating. It was fun.

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And my poor subby yesterday, Minnesota, and it's starting to warm up.

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And I don't know just if it's the whole thing of nothing is normal.

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Everything is just impacted, compacted this year.

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I don't know what it is, but his poor allergies were ridiculous.

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His eye was like weeping and he just looked miserable.

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Allergy medicine makes him sleepy.

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And he was my designated driver.

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So he didn't want to take any allergy medicine.

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So he was an amazing husband.

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And he sat and did my research for my podcast for me while feeling like absolute ass and cheered me on playing darts.

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Rockstar over here with the darts.

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Yeah. I don't know about Rockstar, but okay.

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So first thing on the list, preparation first.

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Okay. I'm just going to read what you put and we will discuss.

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That's all right.

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First, before leaving, prepare a playlist that includes your favorite songs because a road trip without music is almost always an incomplete road trip.

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Right.

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Tunes.

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Yes.

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And we have a list.

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We do.

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Of songs that are just, would be real fun to do naughty things to.

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So there's drive-in tunes and then there's drive-in tunes.

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Yes.

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Yeah. We do have a playlist that's been slowly growing over the years.

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Yeah.

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That is really specific for a specific type of fun.

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Second, implements and supplies.

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The list that follows will require certain items and supplies.

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Items like a dildo, a vibrator, strap-on, handcuffs or rope, a flogger or crap, whatever.

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Anything that would make the trip more interesting.

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Now on this note, we have done some things while driving, but a lot of times we generally, one, aren't driving far.

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Well, okay, I shouldn't say that.

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A lot of times we have kids in the car.

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Now as our kids are getting their licenses, which is exciting and scary all at the same time, we are finding, I mean, obviously the 11-year-old won't be driving anytime soon, but the older ones having their license allows them to drive them more places, which gives us more free time, which is quite exciting.

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It is.

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And this isn't necessarily a list about things to do in the car, but more of as long as you're out and about.

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You know what I mean?

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Yes.

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So.

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Okay, take some time and maybe make up a list and assign your subbie the task of completing the list and try to carry out all of your naughty things in, try to carry all of your naughty things in their own bag or case for easy and efficient access.

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Right.

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You don't wanna be like fumbling through a duffel bag or a suitcase of other things trying to find whatever.

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If you have it like in its own little container or bag or whatever, it's just quick to grab that.

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We have a nice little suitcase that we use for all of our stuff that we haul back and forth to camp, which actually last year, it just pretty much stayed at camp for the entire year because then it's not in the house for anyone to find.

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Right.

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And usually we don't get much alone time in our house in general.

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So, and we don't have a door, which.

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Right.

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It's good practice, you know, not having a door.

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All right, is there anything else?

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I think that's just kind of the preparation.

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The preparation, okay.

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Yeah, just be prepared.

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Yeah.

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Just think ahead and sometimes maybe you have to, if you didn't think of something, you have to improvise, you know, but try to think ahead of anything that might happen from point A to point B.

00:17:27.450 --> 00:17:31.490
And just know no matter how much you prepare, things are never going to go exactly as you planned.

00:17:32.130 --> 00:17:32.329
Fluid.

00:17:32.890 --> 00:17:33.250
Yeah.

00:17:33.450 --> 00:17:33.589
Be fluid.

00:17:33.950 --> 00:17:34.150
Yep.

00:17:34.809 --> 00:17:35.809
Roll with it.

00:17:35.890 --> 00:17:36.049
Yep.

00:17:36.269 --> 00:17:36.950
Enjoy the moment.

00:17:38.450 --> 00:17:42.589
Okay, number one, take the scenic route.

00:17:42.750 --> 00:17:48.150
There are many older highways throughout the country that have much more appeal than the standard freeways.

00:17:48.549 --> 00:17:53.630
A slower pace and the scenery will help you appreciate the time you and yourself have.

00:17:54.049 --> 00:17:56.910
This suggestion leads to another later on.

00:17:57.250 --> 00:17:57.690
Stay tuned.

00:17:59.109 --> 00:17:59.970
Stay tuned, yeah.

00:18:00.430 --> 00:18:05.849
Like, you know, you can probably do things while you're driving on the freeway.

00:18:06.170 --> 00:18:11.410
And if you're anything like us, that probably has happened or could happen.

00:18:11.609 --> 00:18:11.890
Yep.

00:18:14.150 --> 00:18:26.950
However, if you're just tooling along like the county roads and you're not in a big hurry, you might find like a little private nook area of some sort, abandoned this or that.

00:18:31.289 --> 00:18:33.490
Vacant park of some sort, I don't know.

00:18:37.009 --> 00:18:40.670
I mean, stuff that you wouldn't find right on the big major freeway.

00:18:40.750 --> 00:18:40.890
Right.

00:18:41.069 --> 00:18:47.230
We have participated in a few road blowjobs here and there.

00:18:48.309 --> 00:18:51.269
And having the right vehicle for that is important too.

00:18:51.269 --> 00:18:51.609
Yes.

00:18:51.789 --> 00:18:53.750
Not that we're promoting distracted driving.

00:18:54.029 --> 00:18:54.349
No, not at all.

00:18:54.349 --> 00:18:58.670
I mean, just, we would never promote that.

00:18:58.789 --> 00:18:58.910
No.

00:19:00.170 --> 00:19:02.009
I was winking for those who were listening.

00:19:02.690 --> 00:19:03.009
Yes.

00:19:03.369 --> 00:19:04.589
And know your limits.

00:19:04.690 --> 00:19:06.269
I mean, really, I mean, seriously.

00:19:06.430 --> 00:19:07.549
If you can't focus.

00:19:07.950 --> 00:19:08.130
Yeah.

00:19:08.390 --> 00:19:12.750
I mean, if it's something that isn't gonna work for you, don't do it.

00:19:13.069 --> 00:19:15.849
That's why I say, take the county roads or the back roads or whatever.

00:19:15.849 --> 00:19:18.589
You can go at a slower pace or if you know you need to pull over, you can.

00:19:18.650 --> 00:19:18.849
Right.

00:19:19.130 --> 00:19:24.069
We literally just passed a little place where someone could pull off and have a little fun if they wanted to.

00:19:24.529 --> 00:19:28.230
So, and we're on kind of a county road going from point A to point B.

00:19:28.509 --> 00:19:31.430
So it's not really heavy lifting.

00:19:31.750 --> 00:19:31.970
Yeah.

00:19:33.009 --> 00:19:35.130
Again, we're not promoting distracted driving.

00:19:35.369 --> 00:19:35.470
No.

00:19:35.750 --> 00:19:37.690
You know you, you know your limits.

00:19:37.950 --> 00:19:39.710
Right, get off the road and have your fun.

00:19:39.869 --> 00:19:40.049
Yeah.

00:19:41.569 --> 00:19:42.089
Anyways.

00:19:42.869 --> 00:19:50.170
Number two, take part in some backseat shenanigans, which can be a highlight of any road trip.

00:19:50.369 --> 00:19:58.049
Imagine getting comfy in the backseat and getting your bull on the phone or even Skype or FaceTime.

00:19:58.670 --> 00:20:06.029
Keep him on speaker and the two of you put on a fun show while your sub's little dick grows painfully in his cage.

00:20:06.230 --> 00:20:09.309
I like this one.

00:20:09.450 --> 00:20:09.710
You do?

00:20:10.089 --> 00:20:10.410
Do.

00:20:10.809 --> 00:20:11.009
Good.

00:20:12.789 --> 00:20:14.109
That would be quite fun.

00:20:16.359 --> 00:20:17.619
That could totally happen.

00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:18.720
Absolutely.

00:20:19.140 --> 00:20:19.319
Yep.

00:20:20.339 --> 00:20:22.599
It'd be like driving Naughty Miss Daisy.

00:20:24.220 --> 00:20:24.579
Right?

00:20:24.839 --> 00:20:25.200
Yes.

00:20:25.539 --> 00:20:26.740
That's fantastic.

00:20:28.819 --> 00:20:29.180
Yeah.

00:20:29.539 --> 00:20:42.500
Like you could have all kinds of fun by yourself and you know, your sub in the front seat trying to pay attention to the road while you're doing Naughty things in the backseat.

00:20:42.500 --> 00:20:42.880
Whatever you're doing in the backseat.

00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:45.839
With your implements or supplies.

00:20:46.920 --> 00:20:53.839
With her bull on the phone telling you to pay attention to the road while he takes care of things.

00:20:54.059 --> 00:20:56.460
Ooh, that sounds kind of hot, mister.

00:20:56.700 --> 00:20:57.200
Just saying.

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I like it.

00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:01.119
All right.

00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:03.599
Number three.

00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:11.539
Be really ambitious and try to join the 50 state club where you get lucky in every state.

00:21:11.940 --> 00:21:16.099
You could cross off five states in New England in just a day.

00:21:16.740 --> 00:21:22.039
Meaning complete this list or your list in all 50 states.

00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:22.400
Right.

00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:24.180
That's a fun one.

00:21:24.380 --> 00:21:24.559
Yeah.

00:21:24.799 --> 00:21:25.880
You could do that camping.

00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:26.579
Right.

00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:34.200
So if you're big on road trips or exploring the other parts of the country or world for that matter, whatever.

00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:35.460
You know, whatever.

00:21:35.779 --> 00:21:38.460
But I mean, the 50 states rules obviously.

00:21:38.900 --> 00:21:39.079
Right.

00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:49.839
In our country, but my goodness, there's like so many beautiful parts of the country that people will never see.

00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:58.140
But if you add, you know, traveling and seeing the beautiful part of the country and having a little extra fun time.

00:21:58.140 --> 00:21:59.279
I like it.

00:21:59.380 --> 00:21:59.700
Yeah.

00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:01.059
This could be.

00:22:01.059 --> 00:22:01.500
Win-win, right?

00:22:01.519 --> 00:22:03.720
Yes, this could be very interesting in our future.

00:22:03.819 --> 00:22:05.500
This is a fantastic list.

00:22:06.059 --> 00:22:07.099
I like it.

00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:08.519
Well done.

00:22:08.619 --> 00:22:09.019
Thank you.

00:22:13.539 --> 00:22:15.059
We're gonna have to be creative.

00:22:15.460 --> 00:22:15.799
Oh.

00:22:16.140 --> 00:22:16.640
Very creative.

00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:19.619
We are everything about creative.

00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:21.880
And it's kind of hot.

00:22:22.220 --> 00:22:33.700
I mean, I would feel real bad if somebody caught us in our extracurriculars, but obviously use your judgment.

00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:40.039
Again, be responsible, but push the envelope just a little bit maybe.

00:22:40.940 --> 00:22:46.119
Know your surroundings and know, I mean, there's a whole other aspect of if you're in the wilderness.

00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:47.440
Right.

00:22:47.740 --> 00:22:48.440
Bugs and.

00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:53.039
And the thing is, if you're in the, well, I think that's one of them coming up.

00:22:53.299 --> 00:23:01.940
But if you're in the middle of nowhere and you're doing your thing and some hiker comes along, I mean, that's kind of on them too, you know.

00:23:02.380 --> 00:23:06.539
I feel like we're pushing the envelope just a hair here, but I like it.

00:23:06.660 --> 00:23:08.099
Maybe, yeah, I should just shut up.

00:23:08.259 --> 00:23:09.160
No, I like it.

00:23:09.420 --> 00:23:10.019
Don't shut up.

00:23:10.220 --> 00:23:10.619
Anyways.

00:23:10.839 --> 00:23:11.079
Okay.

00:23:11.900 --> 00:23:12.640
Number four.

00:23:13.640 --> 00:23:15.779
This one and number one kind of go hand in hand.

00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:18.380
Camping and summer go hand in hand.

00:23:18.539 --> 00:23:25.940
Drive to a national park and then put in some leg work to make a, leg work to a secluded spot in the wilderness.

00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:32.440
Make sure you are far enough away that no one can hear, far enough away so that no one can hear his cries for help.

00:23:34.420 --> 00:23:34.880
I mean.

00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:35.839
I mean, when in Rome.

00:23:36.019 --> 00:23:36.319
Right?

00:23:36.819 --> 00:23:37.759
I like it.

00:23:38.019 --> 00:23:43.019
If you like hiking or just going for a walk, you can easily attain something like that.

00:23:43.099 --> 00:23:43.299
Right.

00:23:44.660 --> 00:23:45.519
That's fantastic.

00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:51.039
And there's always sticks in the woods for implements of whipping.

00:23:51.859 --> 00:23:52.039
Right.

00:23:53.019 --> 00:23:53.220
Yes.

00:23:53.220 --> 00:23:57.079
And caves and abandoned cabins and.

00:23:57.460 --> 00:23:57.599
Yes.

00:23:57.960 --> 00:23:58.380
Yeah.

00:24:00.430 --> 00:24:03.470
Boy, this living in a camper thing is getting more exciting by the minute.

00:24:03.609 --> 00:24:03.789
Yeah.

00:24:04.170 --> 00:24:07.329
Well, I mean, in case everyone doesn't know that, that is our plan.

00:24:07.569 --> 00:24:07.890
Yes.

00:24:09.170 --> 00:24:09.690
Anyways.

00:24:10.190 --> 00:24:10.609
Okay.

00:24:11.609 --> 00:24:12.650
Number five.

00:24:13.569 --> 00:24:25.630
If finding that secluded spot winds up being a challenge or is just not possible, there are very special and very interesting campgrounds well suited for nearly any sexy slash naughty playtime.

00:24:26.230 --> 00:24:28.589
My subbie and I are residents at such a wonderful place.

00:24:28.710 --> 00:24:34.210
And to be honest, there can be much to learn from others in the lifestyle slash kink community.

00:24:34.609 --> 00:24:36.269
Community is the key word.

00:24:36.609 --> 00:24:40.910
We have met some of the most genuine people in our lives at camp.

00:24:41.069 --> 00:24:41.170
Yep.

00:24:42.230 --> 00:24:49.930
I would absolutely, I would absolutely recommend trying it once.

00:24:50.049 --> 00:24:50.250
Yep.

00:24:51.509 --> 00:24:57.630
I was very, very fucking nervous the first time we tried a clothing optional lifestyle campground.

00:24:58.509 --> 00:25:01.650
I think we've kind of covered this in some of the other episodes too.

00:25:01.750 --> 00:25:02.670
You wanna be careful.

00:25:03.789 --> 00:25:18.009
A nudist camp and a lifestyle friendly camp are different because I looked up the clothing optional campgrounds in our area and there are two or three that are not lifestyle friendly.

00:25:18.410 --> 00:25:18.569
Right.

00:25:18.569 --> 00:25:22.789
And you are allowed to be naked, but they all, some of them allow kids.

00:25:23.230 --> 00:25:23.430
Yes.

00:25:24.609 --> 00:25:30.670
So, I mean, I'm not, I'm not judging.

00:25:30.849 --> 00:25:42.490
I would prefer if my children or other people's children didn't see me naked, but they also say like you, if you get an erection, you have to leave the public area and...

00:25:43.289 --> 00:25:53.710
So make sure you read all of the FAQs or abouts or whatever of any campground that you're thinking about.

00:25:53.990 --> 00:25:56.789
Make the phone call if it's in question.

00:25:57.329 --> 00:25:58.829
Send an email, something, make sure.

00:25:59.150 --> 00:26:10.849
And I would recommend that even if it is a lifestyle friendly campground because there are sometimes a lot of rules that go with a lifestyle campground because imagine being the owner of a lifestyle campground.

00:26:12.950 --> 00:26:13.789
Say that again.

00:26:14.109 --> 00:26:16.089
Imagine being the owner of a lifestyle campground.

00:26:16.230 --> 00:26:16.410
Right.

00:26:16.529 --> 00:26:24.250
There are so many different things, rules, guidelines, things that you need to follow to make sure that people are being safe.

00:26:25.529 --> 00:26:37.990
I can't imagine the insurance on something like that, but you wanna make sure that you read the rules because you don't wanna end up doing something that you didn't realize was not allowed or...

00:26:37.990 --> 00:26:38.210
Right.

00:26:38.890 --> 00:26:49.269
It's just good to be well-informed and always email the person you're making the reservation with or call or whatever, just to make sure you're understanding what's being said.

00:26:49.269 --> 00:26:49.490
Right.

00:26:49.710 --> 00:26:50.609
Ask the questions.

00:26:50.849 --> 00:26:51.009
Yes.

00:26:51.150 --> 00:26:53.369
If there is a question, ask it.

00:26:53.869 --> 00:26:54.309
Just...

00:26:54.569 --> 00:27:05.289
Just so that when you show up, you have a good grasp on what's good to go, what's not good to go, what you're free to do, what you're not free to do, all that stuff.

00:27:05.710 --> 00:27:16.910
Plus, if you are kind of new to the lifestyle like I was when we first tried out our first clothing optional campground, you will learn a lot from their website just by reading the information.

00:27:17.130 --> 00:27:40.509
And then on top of that, if you have questions, it's easier to just Google it and see if you can figure it out on your own and then make sure that when you call to ask questions, you maybe feel more educated about it because it can be very, very intimidating going into this, not ever being a camper or being at one previously.

00:27:40.730 --> 00:27:40.890
Yeah.

00:27:41.950 --> 00:28:05.609
And I don't know with all of the campgrounds, but I know that the one that we are residents at, they also have a public Facebook group where people who are just kind of thinking about going or whatever, they can jump into the group and you can ask questions there of the other residents or other visitors or whatever and get kind of a feel for what kind of a place it is.

00:28:05.650 --> 00:28:05.809
Yep.

00:28:05.990 --> 00:28:27.970
And then some of the campgrounds which we found with the first one that we visited that you had to join a lifestyle forum, like you had to be part of something like FetLife or what is Swingstock or they had their own little one of everybody that had been there before or whatever and it can be kind of expensive.

00:28:28.670 --> 00:28:35.089
So, but if you're already a member, I think you have to be a paid member to FetLife was how it was at the first one we went to.

00:28:35.210 --> 00:28:39.410
It is not that way at our campground that we are residents at.

00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:45.759
And I mean, we could go on for days about our campground.

00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:51.180
We have discussed how much we love it there and we love the people that we've come into contact with there.

00:28:51.660 --> 00:29:01.940
And I would suggest, I mean, if you aren't comfortable, again, we're not promoting having sex in public places as hot as it is.

00:29:02.539 --> 00:29:03.660
Yeah, we can't be.

00:29:04.380 --> 00:29:06.220
I'm not, I mean, I'm not encouraged.

00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:13.220
Well, I guess I am kind of encouraging it but that's what's nice about the campground situation.

00:29:14.460 --> 00:29:19.740
It's nice to be able to go somewhere and this type of thing is allowed or it's okay.

00:29:19.940 --> 00:29:20.519
It's acceptable.

00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:29.119
It's a good way to get your feet wet to see how you feel about actually engaging in sexual activities in front of other people.

00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:31.920
I mean, it might be something you are absolutely against.

00:29:32.059 --> 00:29:36.420
It might be something that you were like, holy cow, I didn't know this was such a turn on for me.

00:29:37.220 --> 00:29:43.480
And the people that you meet there will have so many amazing stories or they can share things that have happened to them.

00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:48.460
And I've learned so much from people, bad experiences and good.

00:29:48.660 --> 00:29:53.319
Right, because at that point, then you find out that you're not the only one that went through X, Y, Z.

00:29:54.940 --> 00:30:00.079
Or somebody brings up something that you've never even heard about that, wow, that kind of sounds interesting.

00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:07.220
That's the community thing that I mentioned.

00:30:08.299 --> 00:30:09.420
That's kind of a big deal.

00:30:09.980 --> 00:30:24.660
And whether that happens at a campground or whether that happens in some sort of a club or on another, like a Facebook group or a forum of some sort or like a chastity mansion.

00:30:24.900 --> 00:30:26.180
Yeah, oh, I love chastity mansion.

00:30:26.500 --> 00:30:28.740
Community is a really big deal.

00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:36.700
You can learn a lot and community kind of cuts through a lot of some of the fluff or the BS.

00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:40.859
And for the most part, I think our campground is pretty drama-free.

00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:48.759
And people are generally pretty decent when you have questions and it was nice.

00:30:49.099 --> 00:30:53.940
So the first campground we went to, I had not a great experience, partially our fault.

00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:56.000
Yeah, for sure.

00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:58.519
I mean, we had some responsibility in that as well.

00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:07.039
I really like our campground because people were very nice and welcoming and I didn't feel overwhelmed.

00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:14.779
And we stepped outside our comfort level or outside our comfort zone and interacted much more than we did at the first one.

00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:18.819
And I think we went camping there twice and then we were residents.

00:31:19.099 --> 00:31:20.220
We were like, yep, this is for us.

00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:21.259
We like it here.

00:31:21.579 --> 00:31:25.700
Yep, and I mean, you don't have to be a resident by any means.

00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:32.740
If it fits you and it's great and that's cool for you, great, but don't feel like that's something you have to do.

00:31:33.059 --> 00:31:38.859
And someday when we don't have kids in our camper with us, I would love to explore other lifestyle-friendly campgrounds too.

00:31:39.259 --> 00:31:45.319
And don't ever feel like going to a lifestyle campground, you have to participate in the lifestyle because you sure don't.

00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:45.700
Right.

00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:55.180
I mean, there's people at the campground that just go because they enjoy being naked or there's people at the campground that go because there's another couple there specifically that they wanna play with.

00:31:55.339 --> 00:32:05.380
Or, I mean, it's really just a great group of people that are nonjudgmental and just are open with their life choices.

00:32:05.380 --> 00:32:08.720
And I don't know, I just, I really like it.

00:32:08.900 --> 00:32:09.160
Right.

00:32:11.500 --> 00:32:13.140
We have reached our destination.

00:32:14.380 --> 00:32:22.700
What do you got for- Okay, so, if you can't tell, we're very pro lifestyle campgrounds.

00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:22.940
Yeah.

00:32:23.140 --> 00:32:23.859
I really like ours.

00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:24.359
Okay.

00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:37.519
We will link not only our happy place, aka our campground, but also some happy places around the country or maybe even the world in the show notes.

00:32:37.859 --> 00:32:39.839
So you can go even just look at their websites.

00:32:40.180 --> 00:32:47.700
And if you're planning a vacation, that might be something that would be really cool just to do, just to go check out while you're on vacation.

00:32:49.460 --> 00:32:52.559
Number five actually leads us into an upcoming episode.

00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:56.619
In the coming weeks, we will start recording live from camp.

00:32:57.859 --> 00:33:00.299
Fucking praying that happens.

00:33:00.700 --> 00:33:03.779
Fucking praying because things have been kind of crazy.

00:33:04.289 --> 00:33:06.720
There are some couples.

00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:12.339
We will maybe be interviewing some couples, singles.

00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:14.160
A single.

00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:15.440
Maybe.

00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:16.740
Holy fucking hell.

00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:17.460
You're good.

00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:19.140
Fresh start, rewind.

00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.059
So hopefully we'll be recording from camp.

00:33:22.180 --> 00:33:30.160
I would also like to include some of our camp friends in the podcast and have them discuss their lifestyle, their community.

00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:49.400
I mean, really, as you can tell from the podcast, if you've listened to previous episodes, I'm really focused on taking the sex out of this because I think a lot of people tend to get turned off by the stuff that's attached to the sex part.

00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:51.880
Like they don't see it for what it really is.

00:33:52.059 --> 00:34:00.859
So I would be interested in interviewing specifically our neighbors because they've been together almost 10 years and they are happier than ever.

00:34:01.339 --> 00:34:08.159
They have a fantastic sex life, which at 10 years of marriage in my first marriage, I was not having sex at all.

00:34:10.500 --> 00:34:13.380
And I just, I would like to just discuss.

00:34:13.619 --> 00:34:13.760
Yeah.

00:34:14.139 --> 00:34:14.340
Yeah.

00:34:14.780 --> 00:34:24.059
And you know, the people, our community up at the campground, they aren't necessarily FLR type people.

00:34:24.659 --> 00:34:26.039
Oh, we are one of a kind there.

00:34:26.260 --> 00:34:29.059
There's all different flavors of people up there.

00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:47.820
And I think that's, I know that this is an FLR type podcast, but I also like the idea of interviewing people from different angles of, and finding out different things that turn people on, different things that people are into, the way they live, their curiosities.

00:34:49.300 --> 00:34:51.340
I kind of find that interesting.

00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:55.800
I think it would be fun too, because like I said, we are pretty much one of a kind there.

00:34:55.940 --> 00:35:01.539
There is no other men as far as residents go that participate in chastity.

00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:15.059
So it would be kind of fun even to do a short little series where we interview a few of our couple friends and get their take on chastity, because the general consensus when we bring it up is fuck no.

00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:15.440
Yeah.

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No can do.

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Yeah.

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We're going to hard pass on that.

00:35:18.420 --> 00:35:19.460
I don't want my dick in a cage.

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I like having sex.

00:35:20.820 --> 00:35:23.699
So it would be interesting to get the other side of that.

00:35:23.780 --> 00:35:56.599
I also have some people that I would like to interview that have emailed me, that have had some not positive reactions to introducing the lifestyle to their significant other, and just different things that they wish they had done different that you guys might find helpful in either introducing it to your partner or helping you work through some common problems that you might be having, trying to navigate being in the lifestyle or doing a specific niche that you are into.

00:35:56.599 --> 00:35:57.159
Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So we're super excited.

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Yeah.

00:36:02.380 --> 00:36:04.519
And we're home.

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We are home.

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Yep.

00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:08.119
That means it's the end of the podcast.

00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:08.780
Look at you.

00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:10.579
You planned it just right.

00:36:10.739 --> 00:36:14.539
In my notes it says, looks like we are almost home, so we should wrap this up.

00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:15.239
I'm pretty good, huh?

00:36:15.260 --> 00:36:16.559
You are pretty fucking good.

00:36:17.619 --> 00:36:18.679
That's why I married you.

00:36:19.219 --> 00:36:19.880
Just that.

00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:20.320
Just that one.

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I know how to write scripts.

00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:21.599
Yes.

00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:23.380
You're so funny.

00:36:23.539 --> 00:36:24.219
You're punny.

00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:25.400
Yeah, I am punny.

00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:27.239
So stay tuned.

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Hopefully we will have some people to chat with on here.

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In the coming weeks and months and whatever.

00:36:34.699 --> 00:36:35.940
And our neighbors are fantastic.

00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:36.539
Yeah, we love them.

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I think you guys will love them.

00:36:37.460 --> 00:36:37.860
We do.

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You will love them too.

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They are fantastic human beings.

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Real people.

00:36:43.099 --> 00:36:43.980
Not whatever.

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Anyways.

00:36:45.340 --> 00:36:45.860
Not whatever.

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They're not fake people.

00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:46.480
Not whatever.

00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:47.300
They're not fake people.

00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:49.619
There are fake people, but.

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Yes, there are fake people.

00:36:52.300 --> 00:36:53.519
So do your thing.

00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:55.639
We appreciate you listening to us ramble.

00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:56.159
Yes.

00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:57.539
I hope you enjoyed it.

00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:00.980
I hope you found some useful information from this.

00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:06.320
I think the main goal, honestly, find things to spice it up.

00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:11.300
Find things that keep your love alive and be sure that you're always telling your partner.

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Like, I feel like I don't tell you enough how much I appreciate you and everything that you do for me.

00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:26.800
And I can honestly say that I've been told that more in like a week or so than entire lifetimes with women in my past, so.

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He's just a fantastic partner to have when things get crazy.

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I genuinely appreciate that.

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Just be good human beings and treat your partners well and find ways to spice it up.

00:37:38.300 --> 00:37:38.539
Correct.

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Find new things you both enjoy.

00:37:40.219 --> 00:37:40.800
Mm-hmm.

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As usual, if you have any questions, feel free to reach out.

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I love answering questions.

00:37:45.500 --> 00:37:47.360
I'm doing my best to keep up with my emails.

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If you've emailed me and I haven't responded, please know I will get back to you, I'm hoping, very, very soon.

00:37:52.900 --> 00:37:53.019
Yep.

00:37:54.219 --> 00:37:58.059
Ooh, I'm sure you guys are all sick of hearing that, but I'm doing the best I can, man.

00:37:58.900 --> 00:37:59.199
Yep.

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Until next week.

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Yes, have a fantastic week.

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Stay safe.

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Be good human beings.

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Love you all.

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Mwah! Can we come in?